dim

getting ahead of myself this weekend.. shop has called to say they expect my ns6 to be delivered today. As soon as it lands and if its ok in shop I've got about 24 hours to prep it and get used to it b4 my crew has a test run gig for our new idea: We're going to set up a band (all mates) and me on dex. Then it's anythign goes: band plays i scratch along, band plays i mix along, band fades out i mix, i mix band joins in, solos, mcs, singers etc... anything goes. We did a simliar thing in the 90's but based on funk/jazz/soul/breakbeat vibe. this time we're all grown up and so is the tehcnology so literally: anything goes. obv i'll take cdjs as back up in case ns6 cant cut the mustard/has issues. and as i say its just mates as a dry run to see if it's a goer we should advertise. this means no pressure., free bar, free cola, free vibes, free nelson mandela (oh no thats been done) i honestly cant wait, feel like i'm 9 and it's christmas eve.

there is a dj profondo already... http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid ... j+profondo just being honest but it sounds like a wack kids party magician to me. cant offer a better option than cupes Cap5 tho. sporco ok without the "dj" maybe?

haha, or: capinyoass cupe: you're a bot at dealing with all us mad multi-personality fools. + rep

^lloyd is right, not much info on the ddjt1 yet from users. hoddi: you could be the first to upload a user guide for the noobs? ...there is no better way to be sure you understand something than to work out how to teach it someone else.

ez. I bow to peer pressure and you get the first rubber head i have ever given

haha, just a bit eh? just rem what i told you b4: i foolish. wonder what Gandy thinks? could it be he is actually considering a move to a DVS/controller rig?

i kno mate, only kiddin. it is pretty confusin anyway. but as far as i understand it: the best analogy i can think of is this: traktro/serrato/even VDJ are software programmes that any user can use with a variety of timecode sources, in a variety of ways, and so can cause a million different issues for themselves and for Tech Support due to the variety of soundcards/ controllers/ midi maps etc. A bit like a PC computer. ...or like a midi controller keyboard with various synthesiser software programmes. Itch is developed with it's hardware so what you see is what you get. But it works and so if you like it you roll with it. like a mac. ... or a piano.

yes but the software/hardware hook up on dvs is not as reliable due to the ability of tinkering. no the traktor and s4 come with midi maps but you can still tinker. the point of itch is you cannot tinker with its midi map. The controls are locked with the controller you choose to buy. You cannot buy itch without a controller. They are born and developed together. This is why they have much better plug and play ability and rock solid latency free control. No extra soundcard, no timecode, no set up. literally plug n play. TBH: i only found out about it coz i like the look of the ns6. but anyway: yeah hoddi: post reviews

yer, well i'm kinda trying to do some real work today in my office. anyway: WHAT IS ITCH? Serato ITCH is an integrated software and hardware system, designed to give music selectors and DJs new kinds of control. Serato and ITCH partners have made award winning DJ systems that operate without CD players or turntables. Using the ITCH software you can DJ music on your computer with accurate control from a range of purpose built ITCH hardware. Channel fading, EQ, cross fading and track trim are processed in software with audio and headphone monitoring on the ITCH hardware. Simply connect one USB cable to your computer, connect to your sound system and you're in action. ITCH DJ SOFTWARE Integrated "one to one" hardware to software mapping for instant control and minimum setup time. Interoperable with Scratch LIve crates, loops and cue points, and support for iTunes™. Clean and simple software user interface with emphasis on hardware controller to display information. Auto Tempo Matching and Beat Sync. Optimal Gain and BPM Calculation Serato's unique color waveforms for easy identification of sound. Set and store Cue-points. Manual and Auto Loop activation. Music Library management tools for backup and restore. Exclusive Access to Fresh Promotional Music with Whitelabel.net Input and Mix recording capability. AIFF, WAV, MP3 and AAC audio file support No Charge Upgrades that constantly add new features and improvements ITCH HARDWARE OPTIONS There are a variety of ITCH controllers designed in conjunction with the worlds leading DJ brands. Each manufacturer has co-engineered their ITCH hardware with Serato to embrace the needs of the many styles of DJing being performed today. ITCH DJ Controllers with internal audio mixing These are all-in-one mixing control surfaces with audio input and output connections. Audio processing and mixing happens via Serato ITCH software. The Allen & Heath Xone:DX is a 4-channel audio controller for electronic DJs and is the result of close design collaboration between Allen & Heath and Serato The Novation TWITCH is a controller for a new breed of of digital DJs and controllerist performers. The Numark NS7 is an elegant desktop controller with responsive motorized control platters that feature 7" vinyl for a more traditional feel. The Numark NS6 is a high resolution four deck DJ controller delivering powerful breakthrough performance. The Pioneer DDJ-S1 is a digital DJ controller combining Pioneer's renowned hardware design with the intuitive Serato ITCH DJ software. The Vestax VCI-300 is a sleek all-in-one portable DJ controller. It can be USB powered from the compute and Its slim design makes it a great traveling companion. ITCH DJ Components for outboard audio mixing The introduction of ITCH components allows DJs to use their choice of outboard mixer to mix and control audio levels. ITCH components allow tight pre-mapped control of your music with all the benefits of Serato ITCH processing and library management. The Denon DJ DN HC-5000 is a robust rackmount controller for Mobile/Digital DJs. It has multi-functional touch sensitive jog wheels and one to one mapped control. It's built-in sound card provides audio outputs to connect to your choice of mixer. The Numark V7 delivers outstanding feel and unprecedented power in a single-platter digital DJ controller. ITCH DJ FX Controllers Unleash and manipulate a range of new Serato DJ FX by adding one of these hands-on performance controllers. The Numark NSFX is a slimline DJ FX controller, styled to integrate with the NS7 and ITCH. The Vestax VFX-1 is a DJ FX controller designed to compliment the VCI-300 and ITCH. Only hardware products bearing the ITCH logo are certified by Serato. This means it is part of a system that has Serato ITCH software ready to use - out of the box. Serato ITCH software is only available for certified ITCH hardware and is not sold separately. http://serato.com/itch

Nah, i cant explain it. There is an explanation, and i feel i understand it, but i cant explain it. Have a look more into the itch product and you'll see how much extra attention they pay to linking hardware and software, it's all about that mate. ^this is the weakest answer ever given ey?

haha, just noticed lloyds original post stated this had no audio. derp dim, derp. This thread could be renamed best midi controller.. or would that open a can of worms?

what is a sync button? Srs tho: i believe it has beatgridding and sync but you can disable all these just like in traktor. p.s. dont confuse serrato with itch. serrato is the timecode based system, itch is just for controllers with high spec hardware/software collaboration i.e. NO MIDI MAPPING.

i knew there was a version with audio. nice work djaz.

^ users can select where the waveform is and i think the idea is that the laptop is essentially a library/record box. devs imply the dj should only need to look at the hardware apart from choosing a tune, hence the crumby gui. TBH i havent tried it yet as ns6 still hasnt landed in uk, but i'll report back when i have.

^haha preperation is for chefs, architects and some djs. you did well throwing it down boss.

^i think its coz serato have a much stronger link between hardware and software, which i guess implies much more time spent collaborating between the two teams at R+D stage? hoddi: no probs, thanx 4 being honest. good luck with the itch forums.

cappsssss: great tune spot mate, keep it real. ravni: when it's time to really generate a trance like state i think djs can sit at one tempo... otherwise whenever i hear a dj set that sits at the same tempo for more than half an hour i go to the bar. Bands dont do it so why do djs? good work fella. vlad: that kind of inventiveness is exactly what computers and auto dj software will never be able to recreate... fly the flag bro.

^ sol is the only reason i'm still here! nohomo whales

^ oh, good spot source, i thought this one had audio too. the numark mixtrack pro is an all in one unit, doesnt look as flashy tho.

^'tis nice so it is. hooked up pon de cloud.

cognarts sol. glad it's starting to work for ya. what street cleaner said is true, trial and error is a way fwd... ravni is also right: Mixed in key is good if you wanna go that way. what i've written below is about developing your own style, if you want to keep on down the path of the modern DJ listen to everybody else... if you want to blaze your own trail read on: i disagree with researching genres and thinking of things that will work well... that's for getting your head round it. Thousands of DJs do only that and that's why they all sound the same forever. No harm in doing it to pad out a set with filler, to make sure you have got your beatmatching down, or to keep a commercial situation earning you money but... If you are really able to beatmatch you no longer need to make things easy for yourself... So just listen to everything all the time everywhere with no exceptions. Occasionally you may find yourself naturally humming or singing a song along to a different one you are listening to. You will not have had to "think" about this, it will have just happened because your marvellous human brain has thrust it upon you. These are the pairs of songs that should mix well AND help you develop your own style. I just remembered this great quote from some rap or other I heard when I was your age: "it aint nothing like hiphop music, you like it coz you choose it." EGGS? can you name that tune? anyway: apply that philosophy to EDM, DnB, Dubstep etc etc and see where you get to. oh, and post mixes boss.

hey lloyd, thats a great buy for a 15 yr old mate. i recommend those or numark mixtrack pro to most students. Can be used as a toy or can be taken srs if he wants... He'll love it. ...god i'm so jealous of how kids these days can get their hands on tech that will do these things for them. whinge whinge whine

oooooo, srs question, please let me know if you dont understand it: you ever used cdj 1000s? if so: how do the platters on the ddjs1 compare? can you set them to "scratch" mode like cdj1000s so that the top of the platter is for scratching/fwd/rwd but the edge of the platter is for nudging? also: chk the links below: If those threads cant help you should prob post your own query (but make sure they know it's about the djjs1, they have hardware specific areas to the forums). On that forum they have a lot of cocks but there are good lads amongst the dicks. Cerla and Kraal have helped me before. http://serato.com/forum/discussion/187476 http://serato.com/forum/discussion/259946 p.s. very jealous of your choice of set up mate. Well done, i honestly believe this new gen of controller will become the new industry standard in the same way cdjs did 15 yrs ago.

hey, i just saw on other thread you got one of those djjs thingies? Do you mean the pioneer badbwoy? I'm sure it's supposed to sync an itunes library. but anyway tell me how it is man... I got some specific questions i could really do with answering if you have used Pioneer cdjs too?

^ i dont know itch either but the screen shots i've seen imply there is a browser area where all you're songs should stay? Have you checked in your itch options/preferences if you can set a folder as your music library? that is how it works in traktor etc. If not that perhaps you can select all your tracks in itunes or whatever and drag the whole lot to the browser area on itch? try drag and drop with one 1st and if it works dump the lot in? i dont know itch but am hoping to get soon, and i am foolish so try my ideas last probably.