overit Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 So I'm using rekord box to populate my USB sticks.I have analysed all tracks in rekord box collection before dragging them from the collection to the USB playlists.I can see the BPM in the rekord box GUI.On the CDJ 850 I can sort by BPM and all the tracks clearly have the info with them.But when I sort by playlist and load a track to the CDJ850 - It either takes ages to display a BPM or it never actually shows one.Y LIKE DIS?Using the BPM counter is a valuable tool when teaching beginners (not that I teach people to rely on them) and I have grown accustomed to the BPM detection on CDJ 1000s and CDJ 900s.Is there some setting on the 850? Is it known for being slow? Is there something I'm missing?All info welcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The 850s are a bit slower to load man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The bpm loads instantly when using analysed USB's for me so it shouldn't be like that.When using CDs / unscanned tracks it doesn't load instantly, but nothing worse than a 1000.Have you tested these usb's on 900s / 2000s to ensure it is the player and not the usb that is faulting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Aye mitch. Tested on 900's and all is good. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 What firmware version are the 850s on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 good question... they're not mine but knowing the organisation that bought them I bet they are exactly as they were when they left the factory.I see there is an update available on the pioneer site so I'll chk if these need it and do it nxt time I'm using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Update is super easy man, i wonder if its your organisation, if you have big playlists might slow you down, are your files mp3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 LOL! not my organisation mate.It's one of the many departments I do work for. These are in a secure psychiatric hospital full of the criminally insane. The in-house occupational therapy team spend a fortune on kit then don't maintain it. Big hearts, wrong approach! I should have checked firmware really 1st but I always forget these employed whales don't think beyond their next fag break.I should get chance to get the decks into my studio on sat eve and do firmware while nr an internet connection and with all necessary resources available. If it works I will then decide wether to charge them for my time or not Files are all mp3. I'm guessing if they weren't it would be slower, but why do you ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 okely dokely ausserinos...my cdj 850s are on firmware version 1.08 now. They were on 1.06.BUT:I just played one of the dullest edm tracks i know with the straightest 4 on the floor audible kick drum. When browsing the track I can see that it has a BPM of 125.0 BPM set on the id3 tag. The track has been playing for 3 minutes and it still has not given me a BPM readout. I could have timed it and calculated it myself by now!Anyone got any magic button I press to make these 850s calculate BPM?(mitch I hope you still got an eye on this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hmm should pop up automatically not three minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydc Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 try re-analysing tracks in rekordbox I rekon.might achally be a faulty unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Quite possibly faulty. I can't find much on the webs if people having this issue and have never heard of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 ^agreed.re analysecheckcomplain....profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Buy 900s or 2000s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 LOL Gremm1s u Whale.I have cdj1000mkIIs and Technics SL1210s which all fell of a dinosaur last century. I also have a Numark NS6, 2 macbookpros both running Itch, Ableton 8.2 and Traktor Scratch Pro 2.6. I am sponsored by a shop who have given me a native instruments S2, F1 and X1 plus a Z2 mixer.My venue uses cdj900s which I maintain and use whenever I like.My business partner has CDJ 1000 MK3s which are in our studio.One of the youth work organisations I work for bought these cdj850s, and now I am discovering they need to neck up, just like you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 OK Helpful Aussies.I've just set rekord box up to analyse my whole collection again...But in the meantime I had an extra peak in the preferences pages. This how the ones I think would be relevant look. If there is anything wrong or there is anything more relevant in the other preferences panes which I should be looking at please let me know:Cheers lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Nothing wrong with settings. Bpm should show up regardless of any changes made. Bpm will even show up in non record box usbs/CDs (just not as quick). Perhaps that's something to test - try copy some files direct from iTunes (not going through recordbox) and put them Just in the root folder of the USB or burn an audio cd and see if the player picks up the bpm on those.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 Good idea Mitch, Monday eve will be the first chance I get to test that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The bpm that shows up in the corner, is that auto counted or goes off the rekordbox info? I have a feeling they may be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The bpm that shows up in the corner, is that auto counted or goes off the rekordbox info? I have a feeling they may be differentDepends if the track is analysed or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREMM1S Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yeah analysed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 well then it goes off the analysis (hence the instant BPM reading)If not it has to calculate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Nothing wrong with settings. Bpm should show up regardless of any changes made. Bpm will even show up in non record box usbs/CDs (just not as quick). Perhaps that's something to test - try copy some files direct from iTunes (not going through recordbox) and put them Just in the root folder of the USB or burn an audio cd and see if the player picks up the bpm on those..Tested this last night and the CDJs displayed BPM on tracks from root folder and on CD quite quickly.SO... I guess I gotta go back to basic with how I use rekord box.Previously I have:Set up a playlist in Itunes.Used the rekord box "bridge" to drag and drop the itunes playlist to the "playlists" pane of rekord box.Analysed the whole collection in rekord box.Left it running until analysis is complete.Dragged whole playlists from rekord box "playlists" pane to the device.Where am i going wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 hmmm..that's pretty much how i use it.Possibly try format that usb so it is fresh and has nothing on it,, force a re-analyse of a bunch of tracks and try those (select a bunch of tracks ->right click -> re-analyse.then reload the tracks to usb and see how you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overit Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 done that already bro.Reckon it's right back to square 1.Uninstall rekordboxformat usb driveinstall rekord box freshcopy itunes playlists using rekord box bridgeanalyse collectioncopy rekord box playlists to usbtestreport back to capt Fudd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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