mattus123 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hey guysive been trying to get into production the last few weeks and ive noticed when writing basslines they either sound very bland, or over complicated, and as a result sound like shit. I have the same problem with writing melodiesjust wondering if there are any good rules of thumbs or tips that might help with creating a good basslinecheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 What kind of tracks are you trying to make?You'll obviously listen to a lot of music similar to what you are trying to make so see what they do and try to emulate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 just trying to make electroyea im trying to emulate what i hear from others, but as stated before, when i try and emulate it it either sounds really boring or over complicated. like it just doesnt sound smooth and natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 What DAW you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 ableton and massive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I don't have massive so can't help with that. When I stick a bassline in ableton I almost always use the corpus effect on it. Usually the sub club one. Makes some difference. Try various settings on some of those til you find one that works. Use a bit of side chain against your kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 yea i did a bit of side chaining, but ill give those other ones a go aswellcheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legunner Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah russ i had this problem too. pretty much NEARLY every sound you make will need some kind of effect on it so just play around until you find something you like.Also watch tutorials on youtube for getting a certain sound then make it your own by tweaking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonz Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 all correct.also try not to use maximizers until you generally have the sound right.and panning helps alot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 root note, then build from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 root note, then build from there.I think for someone who is not clued up and looking for information you may need to expand on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomy Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 so start with the main note of the track / what key its in. sooooo lets just say your track is in C. i sometimes just throw notes in only at C to get a rhythm then maybe change the notes around within some form of scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quick question.... Those trying to produce, do you have any knowledge in music theory at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quick question.... Those trying to produce, do you have any knowledge in music theory at all?Yer You need some (as a minimum) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 so start with the main note of the track / what key its in. sooooo lets just say your track is in C. i sometimes just throw notes in only at C to get a rhythm then maybe change the notes around within some form of scale.ah sweet, thats actually what ive been doing, just more practise i guessQuick question.... Those trying to produce, do you have any knowledge in music theory at all?yea i do have music theory knowledge, my whole music knowledge is based around the guitar though, so its just a bit awkward doing it on piano now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legunner Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Quick question.... Those trying to produce, do you have any knowledge in music theory at all?yeahhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 so start with the main note of the track / what key its in. sooooo lets just say your track is in C. i sometimes just throw notes in only at C to get a rhythm then maybe change the notes around within some form of scale.ah sweet, thats actually what ive been doing, just more practise i guessQuick question.... Those trying to produce, do you have any knowledge in music theory at all?yea i do have music theory knowledge, my whole music knowledge is based around the guitar though, so its just a bit awkward doing it on piano nowOne of the reasons I guess it is recommended to learn piano as a first instrument. It really does show the fundamentals of music structure, more so than playing a guitar. You could still use the guitar to map out a basic chord progression that you want to use. Also could be handy to write down the actual notes used in the chord too (ie put the notes on a staff ie basic guitar C chord is CEGCE). The majority of the notes you will use (but not all) will come from the chord that is playing at the time (bass would almost exclusively stick to the notes in the chord.... unless you are awesome like Flea). This can then be used for your synths/pads later down the track.http://www.stringtheorychords.com/ <-- This also could be useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattus123 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 yea i really wish i learnt some pianoi got a friend who teaches it, im thinking of getting some lessons from heryea thats what ive been doing lately, writing a melody using guitar then transposing it across to pianoableton needs a guitar plugin, so instead of a piano roll, u get a guitar-roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 yea i really wish i learnt some pianoi got a friend who teaches it, im thinking of getting some lessons from heryea thats what ive been doing lately, writing a melody using guitar then transposing it across to pianoableton needs a guitar plugin, so instead of a piano roll, u get a guitar-rollAs long as you know the notes in the key you are using, and the appropriate chords for the key you should be right. Or do like most people and write it in either C major or A minor so you only need to use the white keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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