SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hey guys.So my New Yamaha's are insanely good. But unfortunately they severally out class my sub.There have been alot of situations where I have needed to crank up the yamaha's to fit the larger rooms, but the sub peaks at about 1/4th of the volume the yamaha's are doing. Both the sub and the speakers are 300w rms.I generally keep my gain at about 50% on the speakers, and 25% on the sub.What I want to do is sell my old sub and upgrade to this: Cerwin-Vega CVA-121X 21" 1200w RMSand sell my old sub.However doing this i'd want to sell my old sub. Which has gained a few of scratch, scuff's and bits of paint scraped off. It's in good condition with the driver and amp etc. It's just had a bit of wear and tear on the body itself. (I want to try get 500 for it, they go for 1k-1.2k new)Now what would be the best way to clean up these scuff marks etc? As I want to get it looking good so I can sell it. I'm not sure about the scuff marks, but I think using a black P-Tex candle like they use to repair snowboard bases would fix the scraped plastic. To summarise my questions:1. Would you recommend that sub for my setup.2. Any suggested repair methods for my old one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 How bad are the scratches. Can you post pics?As for your new sub, make sure it's suitable to run with your yammies. Don't just buy bigger because you need to. Before you buy, get the sub with the right wattage or ampage (whichever) for your speakers, otherwise you'll end up blowing your speakers if you got too much power in the sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'll pull it out the trailer in a sec and grab some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Here are the photo's of the sub itself and the damage.Apparently black shoe polish/scratch remover fixes this stuff up quite well. I'l probably either sharpie or p-tex over the plastic break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well there's probably not a lot you can do about most of that stuff tbh. You can try a putty to bog it up but I don't think it's worth it IMO. I've never tried the shoe polish but if you're using it near the grate then try not to get it on the cone. Most of the scratches look ok. As long as the sub works fine you'll be alright selling it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Do you think $500 is a fair price for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yeah I'd say that's fair. Advertise for 600o.n.o and see how you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Will a 21" sub be laggy with 15" pa speakers.What wattage/size would you guys recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Also what is better, a regular or folded horn sub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They're things you'll need to ask at the store. I personally don't know enough to be able to answer but the size of the cone shouldn't matter, it's more the power it puts out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I would have fought a 21 inch sub would be a pain to move around also the replacement drivers would be hell expensive. I am sure that is the main reason 15 and 18 inch subs are so common are you going passive or active because there lots of great plans out there for diy sub box's.As to current sub you have I would not worry about the small scuffs more the damage you show on the edge of the unit I would be trying to repair that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Ok I see you want a active sub if it was me I would be looking at possibly two smaller subs for better coverage in a any given venue. A 21 inch active sub will weight a ton too and I am guessing your the roadie and dj as well I would rather lug tow smaller subs up stairs etc rather than one massive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should get. Budget is 1.5k but I can stretch up for the right product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should get. Budget is 1.5k but I can stretch up for the right product.Put $1.5k in to the meat account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Alright Tax time is coming up and I'm getting a frankly insane amount back.I've pretty much narrowed it down to these choices:One of these1400 Watt Peak, 700 Watt RMS digital amplification132 dB max spl18" High power woofer, 4" voice coilXover selector, phase switch and high pass outputsElectronic equalisation, soft limiter and protectionStereo Xlr/Jack combo input, Stereo Xlr signal outputTwo of these:Power Rating 1500 WAC Power Input 100V - 240V~ 50/60 HzFrequency Range (-10 dB) 30 Hz - 103 HzFrequency Response (±3 dB) 35 Hz – 87 HzInternal Crossover Frequency 100 Hz DSP controlled 48 dB filter slopeLoop out Crossover Frequency 120 Hz analog 24 dB filter slopeMaximum SPL 134 dB peakTwo of these:Configuration: 18" subwooferTransducer: 18" cone transducerFrequency Response (-6 dB): 38 Hz - 124 HzFrequency Range (-10 dB): 34 Hz - 143 HzMaximum SPL1: 135 dB peakAmplifierPower Output2: 1000 W Class D continuous, 2000 W peakThe RCF kicks ass, I've heard em and they go hard as balls.The JBL's can do some huge area's, done a gig with two of em before and they were able to actually do a HUGE triple court indoor basketball arena. (Bit of echo on the sides but it's to be expected for an area that size.The QCQ's i've heard some really good things about and are light with wheels on the back. Also have another 300w under the hood.Found a place in Adelaide that have all 3 in stock so I'm gona go compare them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I think you need to find something that's going to cater for everything you need. It's all good buying a sub that has enough power to blow up an indoor sports centre but it's going to absolutely demolish the houses and halls you're playing in. Find something that's going to provide enough low end for all your work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I think you need to find something that's going to cater for everything you need. It's all good buying a sub that has enough power to blow up an indoor sports centre but it's going to absolutely demolish the houses and halls you're playing in. Find something that's going to provide enough low end for all your workThis. Maybe 2 smaller ones would be better as you can use 1 in cases where 2 would be overpowering. Also easier to carry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatLeSS Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Those QSC's look the pick over the JBL's just on frequency reponse/range alone. Make sure you take some high quality low frequency music to check out the subs when you go to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderdan84 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Also what is better, a regular or folded horn sub?Horns rule. The reason they rule is that they are efficient; a pair of horns on 300 Watts will be louder than a pair of reflexes on 1200 Watts (and also have more extension, how much more depends on the horn design you get). If you can get hold of a pair of folded horns you will stand out from the rest in a big way, and only need half the amplifiers to do so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 I think you need to find something that's going to cater for everything you need. It's all good buying a sub that has enough power to blow up an indoor sports centre but it's going to absolutely demolish the houses and halls you're playing in. Find something that's going to provide enough low end for all your workThis. Maybe 2 smaller ones would be better as you can use 1 in cases where 2 would be overpowering. Also easier to carryThe thing is though I need at least an 18 minimum for all the gigs I do, and do a gig in usually a double basketball court sized area once every 2 months or so.Might be worth just doing one though and hiring a second. I can always slug em for it.Those QSC's look the pick over the JBL's just on frequency reponse/range alone. Make sure you take some high quality low frequency music to check out the subs when you go to compare.And yeah! I'm gona go with some wav's and bring one of my yamaha's to see how they sound in conjunction.I think warranty will be a big thing in my decision too. My yamaha's came with a 5 year one so I know there gona be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupe Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Remember Episode 1 of Zero 2 Hero.Look at you now, Sol.do a gig in usually a double basketball court sized area once every 2 months or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatLeSS Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The thing is though I need at least an 18 minimum for all the gigs I do, and do a gig in usually a double basketball court sized area once every 2 months or so.Those QSC's look the pick over the JBL's just on frequency reponse/range alone. Make sure you take some high quality low frequency music to check out the subs when you go to compare.And yeah! I'm gona go with some wav's and bring one of my yamaha's to see how they sound in conjunction.Why do you need a 18" minimum? If you need some crazy low end on wav's hit me up and I'll send a few tracks over. Can't hurt to get the sound test wav's too which just pump those tones at right frequencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I've tried using a single 15 and there isn't enough punch for the area's I standardly do. Plus I have the room in the trailer and it's not much extra $$$ to go from 15' to 18. I always try to go with a sub one size bigger than my pa's so it can clearly be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabRat Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I've tried using a single 15 and there isn't enough punch for the area's I standardly do. Plus I have the room in the trailer and it's not much extra $$$ to go from 15' to 18. I always try to go with a sub one size bigger than my pa's so it can clearly be heard.just be careful your sub doesn't wash out the other frequencies because it's too big or too powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolDios Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 There can never be enough bass m8 ;3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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