None of the controllers i was looking at had their own LED display, so unless you're a psychic using usbs with the unit without laptop is pointless That is because you were looking at controllers that just control a laptop, not a standalone packake. Cupe is looking for something m-dex *shudder* style where you have 2 decks and a mixer built into one unit with usb ports or something http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/djgear/di ... oller.html Not sure how good this thing actually is though. All the better controllers that I know of you need a laptop to go with them